JFK- Victoria Adams testimony shots from TSBD came from below the 4th floor

Testimony Of Miss Victoria Elizabeth Adams The testimony of Miss Victoria Elizabeth ADAMS was taken at 2:15 p.m., on April 7, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. David W. BELIN, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.
Mr. BELIN - Do you want to stand and raise your right hand, please. Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give before the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy shah be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Miss ADAMS - I do.
Mr. BELIN - All right. Would you please state your name?
Miss ADAMS - Victoria Elizabeth ADAMS.
Mr. BELIN - Are you known as Vickie ADAMS?
Miss ADAMS - That's correct.
Mr. BELIN - Where do you live?
Miss ADAMS - 4906 Wenonah, Dallas, Tex.
Mr. BELIN - What is your occupation?
Miss ADAMS - I am employed as an office survey representative.
Mr. BELIN - By whom?
Miss ADAMS - Scott Foresman Co.
Mr. BELIN - Where do you work?
Miss ADAMS - On the fourth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
Mr. BELIN - Where?
Miss ADAMS - 411 Elm.
Mr. BELIN - That is at the corner of Elm and Houston?
Miss ADAMS - That is correct.
Mr. BELIN - I might ask how old are you?
Miss ADAMS - Twenty-three.
Mr. BELIN - Where were you born originally? In Texas?
Miss ADAMS - San Francisco, Calif.
Mr. BELIN - Did you go to school in San Francisco?
Miss ADAMS - I attended part of my grammar school and high school in San Francisco.
Mr. BELIN - Were you graduated from high school?
Miss ADAMS - In San Francisco, that's correct.
Mr. BELIN - Then what did you do?
Miss ADAMS - Following that I entered the Ursaline Order in St. Mary's, Ohio, and I left there as a novice in 1961.
Mr. BELIN - Then what did you do from there?
Miss ADAMS - I went to Atlanta, Ga. and taught school at the Immaculate Heart of Mary School. And following that I came to Dallas and was employed by the Holiday Inn Central during the summer months, and I obtained a teaching position at St. Monica's School here.

Mr. BELIN - And you taught at St. Monica for some period of time?
Miss ADAMS - Yes; for 1 year.
Mr. BELIN - Then you went to work for Scott Foresman?
Miss ADAMS - I went to work for Scott Foresman.
Mr. BELIN - Were you at work on November 22, 1963?
Miss ADAMS - That's correct.
Mr. BELIN - Were you aware of the fact that the President's motorcade was going to go right by your building?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - How did you learn of this information?
Miss ADAMS - Through newspaper media and also conversation.
Mr. BELIN - Do you remember when you first read about it in the papers?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir; I don't.
Mr. BELIN - Would it have been before November 22d?
Miss ADAMS - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - Where were you when the motorcade passed?
Miss ADAMS - I was at the----
Mr. BELIN - Were you inside or outside the building?
Miss ADAMS - I was inside the building.
Mr. BELIN - What floor?
Miss ADAMS - Fourth floor.
Mr. BELIN - Did you watch the motorcade through a window?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Sometimes that is kind of complicated to try and pick out which window if you are counting from the right or left, so I am going to count from the east side of the building to the west side of the building. Now the windows are separate windows, but they are kind of in pairs, so to speak. Were you standing on the first pair of windows, either-one of those two windows?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Counting from the east side, were you standing in the second pair of windows?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - From the east side, were you standing in the third pair, of either of those windows?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Now, of that third pair, from the east side, would it have been the east window or the west window?
Miss ADAMS - The west window.
Mr. BELIN - So another way, if you don't count in pairs, but count in single units from the east side, you would have been in the sixth window from your left as you were facing out the window, is that correct?
Miss ADAMS - That's right.
Mr. BELIN - Were you standing with anyone
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - With whom?
Miss ADAMS - I was standing with Sandra Styles, Elsie Dorman, and Dorothy May Garner.
Mr. BELIN - Will you state what you saw, what you did, and what you heard?
Miss ADAMS - I watched the motorcade come down Main, as it turned from Main onto Houston, and watched it proceed around the corner on Elm, and apparently somebody in the crowd called to the late President, because he and his wife both turned abruptly and faced the building, so we had a very good view of both of them.
Mr. BELIN - Where was their car as you got .this good view, had it come directly opposite your window? Had it come to that point on Elm, or not, if you can remember
Miss ADAMS - I believe it was prior, just a second or so prior to that.
Mr. BELIN - All right.
Miss ADAMS - And from our vantage point we were able to see what the President's wife was wearing, the roses in the car, and things that would attract men's attention. Then we heard---then we were obstructed from the view.
Mr. BELIN - By what?
Miss ADAMS - A tree. and we heard a shot, and it was a pause, and then a second shot, and then a third shot.
It sounded like a firecracker or a cannon at a football game, it seemed as if it came from the right below rather than from the left above. Possibly because of the report. And after the third shot, following that, the third shot, I went to the back of the building down the back stairs, and encountered Bill Shelley and Bill Lovelady on the first floor on the way out to the Houston Street dock.
Mr. BELIN - When you say on the way out to the Houston Street dock, you mean now you were on the way out?
Miss ADAMS - While I was on the way out.
Mr. BELIN - Was anyone going along with you?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir; Sandra Styles.
Mr. BELIN - Sometime after the third shot, and I don't want to get into the actual period of time yet, you went back into the stockroom which would be to the north of where your offices are located on the fourth floor, is that correct?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir; that's correct.
Mr. BELIN - When you got into the stockroom, where did you go?
Miss ADAMS - I went to the back stairs.
Mr. BELIN - Are there any other stairs that lead down from the fourth floor other than those back stairs in the rear of the stockroom?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Those stairs would be in the northwest comer of the building, is that correct?
Miss ADAMS - That's correct.
Mr. BELIN - You took those stairs. Were you walking or running as you went down the stairs?
Miss ADAMS - I was running. We were running.
Mr. BELIN - What kind of shoes did you have on?
Miss ADAMS - Three-inch heels.
Mr. BELIN - You had heels. Now, as you were running down the stairs, did you encounter anyone?
Miss ADAMS - Not during the actual running down the stairs; no, sir.
Mr. BELIN - After you left the Scott Foresman office and went into the stock-room, did you see anyone until you got to the stairs on the fourth floor other than the person you were with?
Miss ADAMS - Outside of our office employees; no.
Mr. BELIN - Would these office employees that you might have seen, all be women?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Then you got to the stairs and you started going down the stairs. You went from the fourth floor to the third floor?
Miss ADAMS - That's correct?
Mr. BELIN - Anyone on the stairs then?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Let me ask you this. As you got to the stairs on the fourth floor, did you notice whether or not the elevator was running?
Miss ADAMS - The elevator was not moving.
Mr. BELIN - How do you know it was not moving on some other floor?
Miss ADAMS - Because the cables move when the elevator is moved, and this is evidenced because of a wooden grate.
Mr. BELIN - By that you mean a wooden door with slats in it that you have to lift up to get on the elevator?
Miss ADAMS - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - Did you look to see if the elevator was moving?
Miss ADAMS - It was not; no, sir.
Mr. BELIN - It was not moving?
Miss ADAMS - No.
Mr. BELIN - Did you happen to see where the elevator might have been located?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - As you got to the third floor, did you take a look at the elevator again at all, or not, if you remember?
Miss ADAMS - I can't recall.
Mr. BELIN - As you got off the stairs on the third floor, did you see anyone on the third floor?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Then you immediately went to the stairs going down from the third to the second?
Miss ADAMS - That's correct.
Mr. BELIN - As you ran down the stairs, did you see anyone on the stairs?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - All right. You got down to the second floor. Did you see anyone by the second floor?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Did you immediately turn and run and keep on running down the stairs towards the first floor?
Miss ADAMS - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - When you got to the bottom of the first floor, did you see anyone there as you entered the first floor from the stairway?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Who did you see?
Miss ADAMS - Mr. Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady.
Mr. BELIN - Where did you see them on the first floor?
Miss ADAMS - Well, this is the stairs, and this is the Houston Street dock that I went out. They were approximately in this position here, so I don't know how you would describe that.
Mr. BELIN - You are looking now at a first floor plan or diagram of the Texas School Book Depository, and you have pointed to a position where you encountered Bill Lovelady and Mr. Bill Shelley?
Miss ADAMS - That's correct.
Mr. BELIN - It would be slightly east of the front of the east elevator, and probably as far south as the length of the elevator, is that correct?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - I have a document here called Commission's Exhibit No. 496, which includes a diagram of the first floor, and there is a No. 7 and a circle on it, and I have pointed to a place marked No. 7 on the diagram. Is that correct?
Miss ADAMS - That is approximate.
Mr. BELIN - Between the time you got off the stairs and the time you got to this point when you say you encountered them, which was somewhat to the south and a little bit east of the front of the east elevator, did you see any other employees there?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Any other people prior to the time you saw them?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Now when you were running down the stairs on your trip down the stairs, did you hear anyone using the Stairs?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Did you hear anyone calling for an elevator?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Did you see the foreman, Roy Truly? Did you see the superintendent of the warehouse, Roy S. Truly?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir; I did not.
Mr. BELIN - What about any motorcycle police officers?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Now what did you do after you encountered Mr. Shelley and Mr. Lovelady?
Miss ADAMS - I said I believed the President was shot.
Mr. BELIN - Do you remember what they said?
Miss ADAMS - Nothing.
Mr. BELIN - Then what did you do?
Miss ADAMS - I proceeded out to the Houston Street dock.
Mr. BELIN - That would be on this same diagram? It is marked Houston Street dock, and you went through what would be the north door, which is towards the rear of the first floor, is that correct?
And down some stairs towards the rear of the dock?
Miss ADAMS - That's correct.
Mr. BELIN - Where did you go from there?
Miss ADAMS - I proceeded--which way is east and west?
Mr. BELIN - East is here. East is towards Houston, and west is towards the railroad tracks. You went east or west? Towards the railroad tracks or towards Houston Street?
Miss ADAMS - I went west towards the tracks.
Mr. BELIN - How far west did you go?
Miss ADAMS - I went approximately 2 yards within the tracks and there was an officer standing there, and he said, "Get back to the building." And I said, "But I work here."
And he said, "That is tough, get back." I said, "Well, was the President shot?" And he said, "I don't know. Go back." And I said, "All right."
Mr. BELIN - Then what did you do?
Miss ADAMS - I went back, only I went southwest.
Mr. BELIN - Well, did you come back by way of the street, or did you come back the same entrance you went out?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - You went back in through the front entrance, through the front of the building?
Miss ADAMS - Well, I didn't go back in right away.
Mr. BELIN - What did you do then? There is a street that would be a continuation of Elm Street that goes in front of the building, and Elm Street itself angles into the freeway. Did you go back either of those streets?

Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir. I went by the one directly in front of the building.
Mr. BELIN - What did you do when you got there?
Miss ADAMS - When I got there, I happened to look around and noticed several of the employees, and I noticed Joe Molina, for one, was standing in front of the building, and also Avery Davis, who works with me, and I said, "What do you think has happened?"
And she said, "I don't know."
And I said, "I want to find out." I think the President is shot.
There was a motorcycle that was parked on the corner of Houston and Elm directly in front of the east end of the building, and I paused-there to listen to the report on the police radio, and they said that shots had been fired which apparently came either from the second floor or the fourth floor window, and so I panicked, as I was at the only open window on the fourth floor.
Mr. BELIN - Did they say second floor or second floor from the top?
Miss ADAMS - It said second floor. So then I decided maybe I had better go back into the building, and going up the stairs---
Mr. BELIN - Now at this time when you went back into the building, were there any policemen standing in front of the building keeping people out?
Miss ADAMS - There was an officer on the stairs itself, and he was prohibiting people from entering the building, that is correct. But I told him I worked there.
Mr. BELIN - Did he let you come back in?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Then what did you do ?
Miss ADAMS - Following that, I pushed the button for the passenger elevator, but the power had been cut off on the elevator, so I took the stairs to the second floor.
Mr. BELIN - You then went all the way back to the northwest corner of the building and took the same set of stairs you had previously taken to come down, or did you take the stairs by the passenger elevator?
Miss ADAMS - By the passenger elevator.
Mr. BELIN - Do those stairs go above floor 2?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir; they didn't.
Mr. BELIN - What did you do when you got to the second floor?
Miss ADAMS - I went into the Texas School Book Depository office and just listened for a few minutes to the people that were congregating there, and decided there wasn't anything interesting going on, and went out and walked around the hall to the freight elevator meaning the one on the northwest corner.
Mr. BELIN - Would it have been the west or the east? The one nearest the stairs or the other one?
Miss ADAMS - Yes; the one nearest the stairs.
Mr. BELIN - Then what did you do?
Miss ADAMS - I went into the elevator which was stopped on the second floor, with two men who were dressed in suit and hats, and I assumed they were plainclothesmen.
Mr. BELIN - What did you do then?
Miss ADAMS - I tried to get the elevator to go to the fourth floor, but it wasn't operating, so the gentlemen lifted the elevator gate and we went out and ran up the stairs to the fourth floor.
Mr. BELIN - Then you went back to the Scott Foresman Company offices?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Now trying to reconstruct your actions insofar as the time sequence, which we haven't done, what is your best estimate of the time between the time the shots were fired and the time you got back to the building? How much time elapsed? If you have any estimate. Maybe you don't have one.
Miss ADAMS - I would estimate not more than 5 minutes elapsed.
Mr. BELIN - Is there any particular reason why you make this estimation?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir; going down the stairs toward the back, I was running. I ran to the railroad tracks. I moved quickly to the front of the building, paused briefly to talk to someone, listened only to the report of the windows from which the shot supposedly was fired, and returned to the building.
Mr. BELIN - How long do you think it was between the time the shots were fired and the time you left the window to start toward the stairway?
Miss ADAMS - Between 15 and 30 seconds, estimated, approximately.
Mr. BELIN - How long do you think it was, or do you think it took you to get from the window to the top of the fourth floor stairs?
Miss ADAMS - I don't think I can answer that question accurately, because the time approximation, without a stopwatch, would be difficult.
Mr. BELIN - How long do you think it took you. to get from the window to the bottom of the stairs on the first floor?
Miss ADAMS - I would say no longer than a minute at the most.
Mr. BELIN - So you think that from the time you left the window on the fourth floor until the time you got to the stairs at the bottom of the first floor, was approximately 1 minute?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, approximately.
Mr. BELIN - As I understand your testimony previously, you saw neither Roy Truly nor any motorcycle police officer at any time?
Miss ADAMS - That's correct.
Mr. BELIN - You heard no one else running down the stairs?
Miss ADAMS - Correct.
Mr. BELIN - When you got to the first floor did you immediately proceed to this point where you say you encountered Mr. Shelley and Mr. Lovelady?
Well, you showed me on a diagram of the first floor that there was a place which was south and somewhat east of the front part of the east elevator that you encountered Truly and Lovelady?
Miss ADAMS - I saw them there.
Mr. BELIN - I mean; you saw them?
Miss ADAMS - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - Would that have been a matter of seconds after you got to the bottom of the first floor?
Miss ADAMS - Definitely.
Mr. BELIN - Less than 30 seconds?
Miss ADAMS - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - Do you know, or did you know Lee Harvey Oswald either by sight or by name?
Miss ADAMS - I didn't know Lee Harvey Oswald, per se. I didn't know his name. I recognized him after I saw him on television, as having been with some men, but I had no dealing with him.
Mr. BELIN - By that, you mean having been employed with some men by the Texas School Book Depository?
Miss ADAMS - That's correct.
Mr. BELIN - During the trip down the stairs on the way down did you ever encounter Lee Harvey Oswald?
Miss ADAMS - No, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Is there any other information that you can think of that might be relevant to anything, connected with the assassination?
Miss ADAMS - At the time I left the building on the Houston Street dock, there was an officer standing about 2 yards from the curb, and about from the curb across the street from the Texas School Depository, and about 4 yards from the corner of Houston and Elm, and when we were running out the dock, going around the building, the officer was standing there, and he didn't encounter us or ask us what we were doing or where we were going, and I don't know if that is pertinent.
Mr. BELIN - No one stopped you from getting out of the building when you left?
Miss ADAMS - That's correct.
Mr. BELIN - That is helpful information. Is there any other information you have that could be relevant?
Miss ADAMS - There was a man that was standing on the corner of Houston and Elm asking questions there. He was dressed in a suit and a hat, and when I encountered Avery Davis going down, we asked who he was, because he was questioning people as if he were a police officer, and we noticed him take a colored boy away on a motorcycle, and this man was asking questions very efficaciously, and we said, "I guess he is maybe a reporter," and later on on television, there was a man that looked very similar to him, and he was identified as Ruby.
And on questioning some police officer, they said they had witnesses to the fact that he was in the Dallas Morning News at the time. And I don't know whether that is relevant or what.
Mr. BELIN - That is all right, we want to get that information down. Was this before you got back in the front door of the building that you saw this?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir; while I was standing by the motorcycles.
Mr. BELIN - Is there anything else?
Miss ADAMS - That is all, I believe.
Mr. BELIN - Miss ADAMS, you have the opportunity if you would like, to read this deposition and sign it before it goes to Washington, or you can waive the signing of it and just let the court reporter send it directly to us. Do you have any preference?
Miss ADAMS - I think I will let you use your own discretion.
Mr. BELIN - It doesn't make any difference to us. If it doesn't make any difference, we can waive it and you won't have to make another trip down here.
Miss ADAMS - That is all right.
Mr. BELIN - We want to thank you for your, cooperation. We know that it has taken time on your part. Would you also thank your employer?
Miss ADAMS - Yes, sir.

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NEWSREPORT......Police are investigating a third person in relation to the disappearance of Juanita Nielsen

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Juanita Nielson’s disappearance is a puzzle.  There have been numerous investigation regarding the way Juanita disappeared and so will

The Kings Cross Sting.

More than a quarter of a century later Juanita’s exact fate is still unknown.  It is a virtual certainty as I have read about this disappearance that Juanita was probably murdered on or about July 4 1975.  The time, manner and place of her body are still unknown.

Three men were eventually charged with her abduction in 1977.  Two served a total of five years and one was acquitted. However in new evidence there was a third person that has not been identified as yet.

Many people have written books about the mysterys of the disappearance of Juanita Nielsen now it has been identified a 3rd person was present.

Can we locate the third person?

You may be a visitor to Kings Cross or someone that is intrigued by the Kings Cross Underbelly.  Juanita Nielsen a journalist in her own right, having a newspaper called NOW that was putting pressure at the time for going on's in Kings Cross.

Just like the King Cross Sting the newspaper by Juanita was written about the Kings Cross area.

Juanita went missing from the now Empire Hotel back then it was the Carousel Club near the corner of Roslyn Street Kings Cross her last known place as Juanita was seen..

Disappearance of Juanita

On the 4 July, 1975, Nielsen went to the Carousel Club in Kings Cross in order to discuss advertising for the club in Nielsen's newspaper, Now.  She had been invited there by Edward Trigg, an employee of the club.  The club was one of a number of bars and strip clubs owned by Abe Saffron, who is alleged to have been a major figure in Sydney Organised Crime, and it was managed by James Anderson, who, as a later investigation revealed, owed AUD 260,000 (about AUD 1.5 million in 2005 money to Frank Theeman.  Did Juanita go missing through the Victoria Development that eventually was built, or was it for another reason that did not come to be apparent until later.

Before June 1975 the Carousel had no connection with Juanita or NOW, but that month Anderson initiated contact by sending Nielsen an invitation to attend a press night at the club on June 13.  According to the Sydney Morning Herald, she would not normally have been invited because NOW did not give free publicity to commercial ventures.  In the event, Juanita did not attend and both Crawford and Trigg have claimed that Anderson was "furious"  about her non-appearance.  Juanita had not followed the setup.  This was one point where it would push for an error?

A few days later Trigg instructed the Carousel's PR man Lloyd Marshall to invite Juanita to a meeting at the Camperdown Travelodge, supposedly to discuss advertising related to landscaping, but Nielsen's then boyfriend later recounted that Juanita became suspicious and refused to attend.

On June 30, four days before the Carousel appointment, Trigg and another man, Carousel Barman Shayne Martin-Simmonds, called at Juanita's house 202 Victoria Street Potts Point.  This visit was about inquiring about advertising the Carousel's businessmen's lunches in NOW.  Juanita normally didn't touch the commerical side of the business.  It was later claimed that Trigg and Martin-Simmonds intended to seize Juanita when she opened the door, but their plan was foiled when her friend David Farrell answered the door instead.  The two men played out their rehersed story, but Nielsen was listening in the next room and after they left she was complimented Farrell on his handling of the query, teasing him by saying she might send him out on the road to sell advertising in NOW.

Interviewed by police on 6 November 1977, Martin-Simmonds confirmed that the advertising story was a ruse and that their actual intention was to kidnap Juanita if she was alone and take her to see "people who wanted to talk to her".  He said that he and Trigg intended to:

.Just grab her arms and stop her calling out, no real rough stuff, no gangster stuff.  We thought that just two guys telling Nielsen to come would be enough to make her think if she didn't come.  She might get hurt otherwise.  The interview talked about when she came into the room, one of us would be standing there and the other one would come up behind her and just quietly grab her by the arms and maybe put a hand over her mouth or a pillowslip over her head." This was the talk but really what happened we still need to find out.

According to her friend David Farrell, Juanita was by then seriously concerned that her activism was putting her in danger.  Nielsen mentioned her fears to Farrell about two weeks before her disappearance and she arranged to keep him regularly informed of her whereabouts.

Juanita was reporting on the Victoria Street Green Ban issues which had dominanted her paper NOW for a while.  Juanita was also finding out about the illegal casino's and gambling that come to her notice.  Many other issues Juanita was working on that were illegal or corruption that existed.  Carousel receptionist Loretta Crawford claims that Trigg instructed her to call Juanita on the night on Thursday July 3 to set up a meeting at the club for the following morning.  Crawford now claims that she knew that the advertising story was just bullshit.  The Club didn't advertise in local newspapers, it was doubtful that Juanita would attend due to this.  Loretta was surprised that Juanita kept the appointment.

At 10.30am on Friday 4 July Juanita telephoned David Farrell to tell him that she was running late or the meeting.  As reported by Crawford when Juanita arrived she proceeded to the landing on the first floor where Crawford's reception desk was located.  Crawford offered her a seat and a cup of coffee.  Juanita remarked that she had had a "hard night" and suffering from the hung over affects.  Juanita didn't get to drink the coffee because Trigg arrived.  Crawford said that she noted that he was on time, which she thought unusual since he was often late.  Juanita and Trigg exchanged greetings on the landing and went upstairs to Trigg's office.

At this point the accounts of what happened have changed over the years.  In the Sydney Morning Herald in 2001 Crawford made claims that she had called Jim Anderson at his home in Vaucluse, told him that Juanita had arrived and that he was "quite pleased" by the news.  Crawford was adamant that she was in no doubt whatsoever that Anderson was at his home in Vaucluse. Jim Andersons car was found to be at the Sydney Airport with two parking tickets.  The phone could've had call forward on the telephone line?  Crawford had no doubt that Anderson was at his home in Vaucluse-- not in Surfer's Paradise, as he has always claimed.

In statements given to the police Trigg and Crawford said that Nielsen had left the club alone, although in 1976 Crawford changed her story to say that Nielsen and Trigg left together.  Nielsen was not seen again.  I note all of these people were not Abe Saffron, it could be a group unbeknowns to Saffron or the ownership of the club.  Nielsen's handbag and other effects were discovered on 12 July, abandoned near a freeway in Sydney's western suburbs.

New Zealand born transvestite Monet King (who was then called Marilyn King), the former boyfriend of Trigg, told one journalist that Trigg had returned home on 4 July with blood on his clothes.  A piece of paper in his pocket, which was later used by police as evidence before the coronial inquest, also had blood on it.  Was this blood had dna tested?  DNA could solve this disappearance?

This was supposedly a receipt signed by Nielsen for advertising money paid by Trigg.  King said that Trigg threw out the shirt, and the portion of the paper with blood on it.  King never gave testimony to the police or the coronial inquiry.

Why not, did King not give evidence?

In the late 1977, Trigg and two other employees at the Carousel Club were arrested and charged with conspiring to kidnap Nielsen.  Trigg was imprisoned for three years, one other man was imprisoned for two years and the third was acquitted.  However, it was still unclear what had actually happened to Nielsen.

After the death of James Anderson in 2003, Crawford changed her story again.  She claimed that she had seen Nielsen's body in the storeroom below the club, with Trigg and two other men standing over her.  She saw that one of the men was holding a gun, and Nielsen's body had a small bullet wound.  Other ideas were that Nielsen had left the Carousel Club meeting someone to enter the Lido Motel in Roslyn Street Kings Cross.  Three men were their, one Fred Krahe with two other bouncers or heavies were some of the reports.  Ideas?  Someone must've seen what happened.

Even that Jim Anderson had left his car at the Airport picking up a Yellow Mustang that was later seen in the Kings Cross area where Juanita was last seen.

Nielsen's body has never been found.  Many have thought it was dumped out to sea, others believe it is in the Blue Mountains.

The obvious motive for Nielsen's presumed murder is her opposition to the Victoria St development.  However there have also been claims that she was working on an expose about vice, corruption and illegal gambling in the Cross.  Her then boyfriend John Glebe gave evidence that Juanita had told him about receiving telephone threats and he also testified that she carried cassette tapes in her handbag.  According to Glebe, Juanita had told him about that the tapes could "blow the top off" an issue she was working on.  These would expose the principals involved in Sydney's illegal gaming industry.

The investigation by the police and by the coronial inquiry was reported and I believe this was the most indepth information.

If you know of what happened then call Crimestoppers.

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THE STATE OF TEXAS

Affidavit

County of Travis

1.    My name is A. Nathan Darby. I am a resident of Austin , Texas ,
and I am fully competent to make this affidavit.

2.    I have been active in law enforcement for many years, starting
with the Texas Department of public Safety as a State Trooper in 1938.
I then served with the Austin , Texas Police Department from October
1940, and including my military service, I was with the Austin Police
Department until my retirement in August 1979. During that period of
service, I rose to the rank of Lieutenant-Commander. I am presently an
expert in fingerprint identification, and I hold the designation of
Certified Latent Fingerprint Examiner (#78-468), which is issued by
the Internal Association for Identification, pursuant to the attached
Exhibit DAN #1.

3.    I first became interested in fingerprint work in 1942. My direct
work in fingerprint identification began soon after, during my
military service. I joined the U.S. Army in October 1943 and graduated
from Officer Candidate School as a lieutenant in February 1945. I was
immediately put in charge of preparing a fingerprint identification
system for the Philippine Commonwealth. For my work of setting up
their Central Fingerprint Bureau, I was awarded the Philippine
Military Merit Medal, the Philippine Commonwealth's highest non-combat
award for foreign military personnel. The United States Army also
awarded me the Army Commendation Medal. This achievement was further
recognized in the 1946 textbook, Lectures in Fingerprints by Fred C.
Luchico, then Chief of the Identification Division with the Department
of Justice, where he states that I "provided a modern, current, and
complete fingerprint file for the Philippine Commonwealth." By 1946 I
had risen to the rank of Captain. When my tour of Duty was completed
in the Philippines , I returned to the Austin Police Department in
November 1946.

4.    On 1 January 1948 I was promoted to sergeant and assigned to the
Identification Section of the Austin Police Department. On 7 July 1953
I was promoted to lieutenant. In 1956, I was made supervisor of the
four employees of Identification and Criminal Records Section of the
Austin Police Department. At this time I handled the classification of
176,000 cards and expanded the section to fourteen employees, training
and supervising all personnel. In 1970, I worked on advanced record-
keeping with the Kodak Miracode system and developed the fingerprint
and photograph coding method for the system. During this time I also
served on the board of directors of the Texas Division of the
International Association for Identification. I hold an Advanced
Certificate in Law Enforcement and an Instructor Certificate from the
Texas Commission on Law Enforcement. I have been a member of the Texas
Division of the International Association for Identification since
November, 1946.

5.    Since 1949, I have testified in numerous cases in the State and
Federal Courts about fingerprint identification. This testimony
included the preparation of latent charts as exhibits. There was never
a mistrial or appeal based on my testimony. Attached is Exhibit DAN#2.
This exhibit shows the opinions of two District Judges, Travis
County , Texas regarding my testimony experience.

6.    Fingerprints are an important part of law enforcement because no
two prints are alike. Although no person has been able to calculate
the likelihood of a mismatch with statistical certainty, the courts
accept the admissibility of evidence from fingerprints. Human
fingerprints are from unique ridges, which are useful for gripping and
holding. An inked fingerprint is the reproduction of the ridges of the
finger. An inked fingerprint is provided by putting black ink on the
finger and then placing the finger on a suitable contrasting
background surface, such as white paper. A latent fingerprint is the
production of ridges when the finger has been placed on a surface. The
ridges of the finger leave a residue, body fluids, and chemicals on
the surface touched. The latent prints are recovered and compared to
the inked prints.

For an expert to identify a latent print with an inked print, matching
formations must be found on both prints. The ridge lines between the
matched formation are then counted. This ridge count must be the same
count for both the latent and the ink print. There is no fixed
documented limit on how many matching points must be made. The
identifying marks on the Ink print and the latent print are then
marked and numbered. A conclusion and identification is then made
based on the location of the characters on the prints, their
formation, and the ridge count between them.

7.    Recently I received a photocopy of an inked print along with a
photocopy of a latent print from [ Texas researcher]. After careful
and extended examination of the inked print photocopy and the latent
print photocopy given to me, I have their identifying characteristics
marked and numbered. The inked print is Exhibit DAN #3, and the latent
Print is Exhibit DAN #4.

8.    In addition to exhibit DAN#3 and exhibit DAN#4, [researcher]
gave me a photocopy of a standard form fingerprint card. This is
exhibit DAN#5. Exhibit DAN#5 is from an unknown source and has
fingerprints of an unknown person to me. The space#10 on exhibit DAN#5
is the same inked print as DAN#3. Space #10 on exhibit DAN#5 is the
space used for the left little finger. There are other indications
that the print in space #10 on Exhibit DAN#5 is the left little
finger.

9.    Based on my comparison, I conclude that the unknown person to me
who produced the inked fingerprint Exhibit DAN#3 produced the latent
print Exhibit DAN#4, and produced the print in space #10 on exhibit
DAN #5.

/s/ A. Nathan Darby

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 12 day of March, 1998.

/s/ [not easily read]

Notary Public for Texas

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J & B Trust...Is this J for John Ibrahim and B for Bill Bayeh?

D & S Australia Pty Ltd is a trading name for

J & B Trust?  Who is the J?

My heartful thanks and love goes out to the spirits that have helped me xxx

I maybe just a mother of 3, yet we have exposed the greatest mysteries of the Underworld to YOU.

Almighty Judge, please hear us…..

This gang needs to be destroyed.

J & B Trust, just like the High Priestess Card with B & J on the Columns.

Is the J for John Ibrahim?  I wonder

Is the B for Bill Bayeh?  I wonder

This is the owner of the Premises were the hidden compartment is for the strong hold.

Subfloor, 2^nd hallway headed in a North and South line where you enter the door of the fire escape and walk upon the top like the King Solomon who had the secrets LXX in Hebrew and John 4.6 Court room looking for the Truth.

MC J, Mercy John?  Is this the connection where we have Courtney and Frances at the altar?

Judge Garling was this just co-incidence?

Judge Garling was this just co-incidence?

The Courts fitted the pattern required by the gang that walks Kings Cross of a night?  Celebrities Judge Garling called them....Frank Amante, John Ibrahim, D & S Australia Pty Ltd trading as J & B Trust....Who is the J?

We have this “Spirit of Truth”…The Court room number on the 16 December 2013 had to link to the patterns, 4.6 …The Court room 4.6 was utilised by Judge A Garling.  I felt like there was above the court to the furtherest room above the Court room 3.2…we had been below to the depths of Mark Foy’s oldest building the Downing Centre as the Sparkling Chandeliers.  This was the connection within the Sentencing 1 John 4:6 We are of God; he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us.  Hereby know we the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.  Was this the link hidden where I was trying to see the patterns yet it was the research I needed for the understanding.

Coercion, the threats to shoot me, was just the Devil’s play.  He uses any and all means available to him. One particularly effective means of temptation is the pressure of circumstance. Fear, of loss, of embarrassment, of inconvenience, of injury, of unpopularity, of death, of anything in the face of which we feel fear, is a powerful tool in the Devil's hands. By suggesting to us the terrors that may result from doing what is right (or abstaining from what is wrong), the devil is often able to manipulate us into sin and evil (and away from God's will: Rm.8:15; 2Tim.1:7; Heb.2:14-15).

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